HELP WITH EMULATOR??
silva
Registered User
Been oferded good deal??? on 4x emulators + controller for low dollars.
No lamps in light units & no idea what model controler is.No idea what there worth.(lamps or the lights)
Can anyone give me a basic run down on what these things are capable of?
Can put some pics on msn if need bee. Offer closes Sunday.ANY HELP APPRECIATED.:rtfm:cANT FIND MUCH INFO SO FAR BUT KEEP LOOKIN.Thanx:Eyecrazy:
No lamps in light units & no idea what model controler is.No idea what there worth.(lamps or the lights)
Can anyone give me a basic run down on what these things are capable of?
Can put some pics on msn if need bee. Offer closes Sunday.ANY HELP APPRECIATED.:rtfm:cANT FIND MUCH INFO SO FAR BUT KEEP LOOKIN.Thanx:Eyecrazy:
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The purpose of these lights is to create a laser effect without actually being a laser. They do some pretty funky patterns and colours, and were the best you could get in the early '90s when real lasers cost an absolute fortune. Nowdays small lasers are selling for a reasonable price just about anywhere.
If you can source the lamps for them cheaply, then they are worth a try. The trouble is that without the lamp, you can't easily tell if the rest of the fixture is working properly either, so you have to take the chance.
I hope this has been some help, or am I way off the mark?
As for the lamp, that is not the correct lamp,
the unfortunately the only place I know to get that lamp is here in the US.
the lamp you mentioned is the strobe lamp for a AF1000.
Also, Interactive technologies made a DMX to Emulator box, I believe you still can special order it.
if that helps you.
Good Luck
Joshua Wood
Service Manager
Ruehling Associates Inc.
www.lightparts.com
After all these years Emulator is still one of my favorite fixtures!:headbang:
Incidentally if you visit
www.solarisnetwork.com
they are a second hand broker for pro lights and sound gear, and second hand emulators get good prices through them if you ever need to sell them again ( the controllor could fetch a grand or so alone) They may also have lamps. Anyway, its always good to have a look over the gear they have availible.
Don at lightparts is THE man you need to know! Noone knows more about it. He is the Yoda Master of older HES fixtures.:notworthy: Never seen anyone better anywhere, and he has the parts you need.
i am running 4 emulators in germany. i bought them used in a bad condition, but after some work and some deals from ebay, i got almost every part i needed to bring them back to life. However, the expensive Original lamp from Highend sells for about 350$ each. So i looked for an equivalent lamp from other manufacturers all over the internet. It took long time to find something useful, but here it is: I got them at Atlas Specialty Lighting, Hileah, Florida. The bulb is called XM150-13HS and sells for about 200$ . Nowadays, same bulb is selling at ebay for 193,00$. Some specs of the lamp can be found at the website from Atlas, provided in a pdf document: http://www.asltg2.com/ORC/page3xe.pdf
When I ran the first 2 lamps, one shattered after running maybe 10 hours in the night club. After short communication with Atlas Lighting, I got an new one for free. Nevertheless, the exploding lamp killed its reflector and lens. It was luck to get some old spare party from an german Highend dealer. After running these 2 lamps for about 100 hours, another one shattered in the same way. So now i dont know why, but i suppose there must be something wrong with these lamps, though they fit the specs of the original one perfectly. Anyone an Idea? Suggestion and discusion will be welcome. Regards, Hans
Good luck Roman
As for the lamps exploding,
I would look at the fans, making sure they are all running,
Make sure the fixture is tapped for the correct voltage,
I would verify your voltage to make sure you are not over feeding it,
and I would make absolutely sure you are not leaving any skin oils on the lamp. (should be difficult to get oil on the lamp with all that leather protection gear on but you never know)
Just make absolutely sure there the lamp is clean. It doesn't take much for xenon lamps to fail..
Good Luck!
Joshua Wood
I have a emulamp in front of me and it tells me HLL1000.
Original High End Lamp.
Is the lamp seated perfectly? This can cause a xenon lamp to explode.
Best Regards Roman
not to be difficult, but the whole emulator only draws 6 amps at 120 volt. So, unless they run it doesn't seem like it could be a 1000 watt lamp.
Joshua wood
here in Austria and in Germany we have 230 Volts. And there it takes 4 Amps. On 120 Volts it takes 8 Amps (Both High Mode). On normal Mode 1 Amp less. I took a look
So I don't know exactly:06:
Any information from the HES Guys????
Best regards Roman
I did a bit of research, and I can't figure out what type of lamp you have,
It doesn't sound like any Emulator lamp I have ever heard of, It sounds closer to a AF1000 lamp.
What does the lamp look like??
The Emulator Lamp is definitely a 150 watt lamp.
Here is an emulator manual for your reference as well,
http://www.highend.com/pdfs/products/emulator/emulator_led.pdf
and according to the manual, at 230 volts, the emulator draws 3 amps, not 4...
and a 1000 watt lamp, by itself, should draw around 4.3 amps at 230 volt...
:poke:
Joshua Wood
the lamp looks like an ordinary xenon lamp. the only differenc is that it is short arc style.
Is there anybody from hes who can tell us the truth?????
best regards Roman
Don't use these!! Not only will they explode, but they will cause your lamp capacitors to fail prematurely as well.
Knock-offs are exactly that....no substitute for the real thing.
Great advice! I got a "history of Emulator lamps" from Don@lightparts, and the moral of the story is, use only the original HOL-1000 made by A.R.C. (available from Lightparts).
There are cheaper substitutes, but Don said they are responsible for most of the reflectors they sell. Last time I had to replace a reflector, it was $75. Condensor lense (also a common lamp explosion victim) was over $100 (IIRC). Add that to the 'bargain' lamp price, and it's no longer a bargain (not to mention the time the instrument is out of service waiting for replacement parts.)
The lamp adjustment is described by using some kind of photometer, if i remember that correctly. Does it make sense ? I adjusted them by comparing my emulators so far...
I still have an fifth emulator, which is working well, but fails to strike the lamp. I interchanged the cap, lamp, and board (brand new) with other emulators, and all parts are working in the other ones, including the lamp. the defective one tries several times to strike, and sometimes it works and then the emulator runs well. but mostly it fails.
The emu has a special part the senses the hours on a lamp!. If the lamps is way too old or has too many hours it reads the voltage it's using to jump the arc on the electrodes. If you have a lamps, keep track of the hours. At a point it will become difficult to get them to arc. This is when you swap lamps. Keep dogging them and they may explode.
Your unit is now contaminated with vaporised Mercury. You have hot glass in your face and eyes and your day is really starting to suck.
If the boss says keep using and striking the lamps he is an idiot.
Thank goodness the circuit in control will finally get to a point that it just wont work.
Optimizing is a tricky thing. It takes time to learn. you'll have x, y and z to deal with. Enjoy!
Hope the link works below if not let me know and I will see what I can do.
Scott
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330193255785&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=330193255768&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
In looking at the other auctions, most of that vendors lamps tend to be GE, which tend to have "non-passive" failure at end of life..
And I really hate replacing dichroics, just to save a buck on the lamp....
Thanks, but NO thanks...
Joshua Wood
Yeah......I'd stay way far away from these things if I were you.:eek:
Best thing to do is call LightParts!!:D
Scott