Because they are not palettes....they get recorded into cues as hard values.
You can select something in the Colour Picker and then record it as a palette if you want it to be referenced.
This way if you change you mind as to your "Red" palette for example you could switch all cues that reference "Red" from L-106 to L-027 or whatever you like.
Thanks for the responce but I was more so wondering why aren't they allowed to be Palettes so they can be referenced. Taking the time to create palettes from gel picker can be time consuming. I use them alot for quickly creatung looks and think it would be great to see the "gel names" when I choose "SOURCES" in the Output or Editable Programmer windows. I don't know if this has been suggested yet but it would be great if there were an option in the PREFERNCES settings that allowed the gel picker to become usable as a referenced color palette.
I get the concept, I'm just not sure I understand the why.
The whole idea of a palette is that you can edit it at a later point and thereby "update" a large number of cues without having to go back and check them.
Colour Picker selections are not editable by their very nature (nor should they be), so if you know from the onset that you are not going to go back and edit something, why reference it in the first place?
We have had an enhancment logged for a while to change the gel picker selections to palettes. This has been a low priority as one can easily do this themselves, but I will add this new discussion to the thread. One reason that people wish for this functionality is so that the gel number used will be placed within their cues.
Just as a matter of clarity Brad. Will this make the Gel Selections in the Colour Picker true palettes (ie-editable)? Or will they just show up as the "source" of the data in editors?
I'm all for seeing the source info in cues, etc.....but not really happy with the idea of making the Gel Picker user editable.
The long requested feature has been for them to be palettes and be editable. Of course I understand your concern with them not being editable, but then again how is that any more dangerous than standard color palettes? It is really up to the programmer/operator of the show to ensure palettes retain their proper references.
I am curious how the editablity of the gel pickers concerns you in a greater manner than that of standard palettes... I just want to understand your logic.
I'm with Marty on not allowing the Gel Picker colors to be editable. The Gel Picker was created as a known reference to widely used gel colors by name and number. Allowing a deviation from that standard would cause some confusion if someone where allowed for instance to change the value of Rosco Amber to a Rosco Blue and re-save it as Rosco Amber. If perchance that operator had to be replaced, the new programmer would be totally lost if he were called upon to bring up Rosco Amber and it turned out to be a blue color instead. I believe if you allow the Gel Picker Colors to be editable you loose the standard by which they were created in the first place, therefore negating the whole point of using the "Gel" Picker to choose color.
As more and more fixtures become calibrated (we can hope right???) the Gel Picker should not be editable.
I agree that it should be the responsibility of the programmer, but in one-off situations, I'd like to be able to go in knowing that at least those colors were always locked and use them as needed.
I also completely agree with Marty in that I don't believe that they should be editable. Just as the example above, and also really once more and more fixtures become color-calibrated changing those pallets could have very detrimental effects across the board. Also, changing a show from say a VL3000 to a Mac2000 would then be the same or very similar color as opposed to entirely different due to the change in that palette
But what happens then when you have a show with many many cues, and you decide that r57 needs to have more red in it? How would you then update all your cues without having to go in and manually change all appearances. With that said, maybe having the color you pick from the gel picker automatically becoming a palette. So in this case the gel picker would not be a palette, but when you use a color it automatically gets recorded into a palette with names and/or gel number. This way the Gel picker isn't editable, but the colors you use in your show are.
Thanks to all this is a great discussion... :headbang:
Chad said, "With that said, maybe having the color you pick from the gel picker automatically becoming a palette. So in this case the gel picker would not be a palette, but when you use a color it automatically gets recorded into a palette with names and/or gel number. This way the Gel picker isn't editable, but the colors you use in your show are."
This is very similar to some of the ideas we have discussed here in the office. This is probably the closest to the concept that will eventually get implemented. Of course it would have to be optional so that it could be turned on/off as desired.
[QUOTE=Marty Postma;41996]I think the point we are all making is that then this is no longer R57.
Not opposed to the auto-generated colour palette idea though, but I would want the option to turn this off in Preferences.
That is why with my idea the gel picker wouldn't be allowed to be edited. Only the color Palette that was used. It would then be up to the programmer to update his/her palette names.
[QUOTE=bradpepe;41997]This is very similar to some of the ideas we have discussed here in the office. This is probably the closest to the concept that will eventually get implemented. Of course it would have to be optional so that it could be turned on/off as desired.. Soooo.... When would that be? :D
