Phillips MSD 250/2 Alternatives?

Doesn't pass the "smell test" in my book.....very very fishy!

Stick with the Philips lamps.....you get what you pay for....every time.

[quote=Marty Postma]Doesn't pass the "smell test" in my book.....very very fishy!

Stick with the Philips lamps.....you get what you pay for....every time.

+1! All HES units are built around Phillips lamps. I've seen others detonate for no reason causing pricey repairs.:poke:

Like Marty said "you get what you pay for" and you do! Anything other than Phillips are Verboden in my shop. No exceptions allowed.

I had the same feeling but just thought I'd check with everyone to make sure it was so.

Thanks!

Joe

I highly recommend using these lamps in American DJ products. Those things deserve to explode.

I've used these KSD 250 lamps from Divine lighting, in both Martin and HES fixtures, I've never had a problem. They've been in the Technobeams for almost a year.

Ive used the ones from Divine Lighting for the past 3 years and have had no malfunctions at all.
They are used in:
4 Studio Spot 250
4 Technobeams
12 Color Pro HX

I've gone ahead and ordered the Phillips bulbs but I'd still be an interested in hearing from the adventurous out there.

Joe

Hello,
This is Dustin, the owner of Divine Lighting. I'm glad to be a new member of your forum. Your distrust of off-brand lamps is well-founded. I'm sure that many of you have had bad experiences in the past with such products, as have I.
That being said, we have gone to great lengths to ensure quality and consistency in our products. Specifically, our KSD 250/2 has a spectacular track record. To be clear, there are a couple of differences. The temp is 8000k and the life is 2000 hrs. Of the thousand's that we've sold, there have only been a couple of returns, and that was for the color. As long as you relamp all of your fixtures at once, then that shouldn't be a problem.

KSD 250/2 www.divinelighting.com/ksd-2502-divine-lighting-ksd2502-p-206.html

Here is a list of all known problems with our lamps:
KSD 575/2: there have been some issues with convection-cooled fixtures, but none at all when the cooling is forced.
KSD 700sa: There haven't been reported problems with the xSpot, but it does have issues with VariLite. We're going to pull it until we get it fixed.
KSD 150: Older Martin 812's sometimes have problems striking the 150's.

I welcome posts from any of you who have used our products, with good or bad results.

Best regards,
Dustin Johnson

What customers say they like about us:
1. Friendly customer service.
2. We usually ship same day from Atlanta.
3. Shipping is free. (over $50)
4. Prices

On a side note,
I am sure someone from high end will chime in here,
but I am 99% sure using non-phillips lamps voids any warranty your fixture has.
Joshua Wood

That's not a side note at all. After some investigation, I've found that using other brands of lamps "may void the warranty."

Yes, maybe we could get some clarification on what this means. It would be a shame if that were the case, since there are so many quality lamp makers out there, like GE, Osram, Ushio, and, in my opinion, Divine Lighting.

To the best of my knowledge, designing a fixture around a lamp would primarily concern the following: ignition voltage, operating voltage, current draw, physical dimensions, base type, thermal management, color rendering.

Personally, I don't think the particular brand of lamp makes that much difference, as long as it is manufactured with high quality and consistency, and meets specifications. Of the thousands of 575's and 250's we've sold, there has never been a report of one of our lamps damaging a fixture. And customers tend to be very vocal about that sort of thing.

Dustin Johnson
www.divinelighting.com

Dustin,

All our fixtures are developed and tested around the Philips lamps. In fact, we frequently do joint development of new lamps with them.

Using any other lamp than what we specify with the fixture may void the warranty. Lamp failures can cause a significant amount of damage to the fixtures. Even lamps that don't physically fail can cause significant damage if they have the wrong thermal characteristics.

Scott,
Thanks for the information. It is very understandable that you want your products to look and perform their best. HES has been my favorite manufacturer since my first encounter with Trackspots, and I greatly respect the work you guys do. You are a great asset to the industry.

Regards,
Dustin

Dustin can tell me what problems convection-cooled fixtures like 575s did you have? I ordered some of your 250/2's and so far they seem ok after a few months in a club. but I got a msr 575 and it lasted a week and the light will not light up? I looked the fixture over and can't find anything, the bulb looks ok, just dead?

Jeeper,
Are you referring to a Philips MSR 575, or a Divine Lighting KSD 575? The KSD 575 is not recommend for StudioSpot 575 because they stop striking early in the life span. If you have purchased the KSD 575, please call us to work out an exchange or refund.

Regards,
Dustin

[quote=SBlair]
All our fixtures are developed and tested around the Philips lamps. In fact, we frequently do joint development of new lamps with them.


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