"ghost channels"

Hi guys,
I have I quite weird problem with Hog2 PC. Version is 3.4.3.123.
After loading a show from an actual showdisk, and connecting to Wysiwyg some desk channels are outputting levels. There is nothing in the Programmer, I can bring the channels down with the grand master and I can set them to zero in the programmer. No cuelist is active, PIG+Release shows no result, I even released all cuelists in the list window by hand.
And now starts the weird thing. Loading the show into a real Hog2 and connecting the desk to Wysiwyg, the problem is gone. OK, back on the computer, deinstalling Hog2 PC, even cleaning up the registry, the problem is back. What's also strange: When trying to start Hog2 PC a second time, it seems that the show is read from the computers harddisk, even when A: is selected...
I have used Hog2 PC together with Wyg for years now, never had any similiar issue. Any ideas anybody?

kind regards
Tommi Bernhardt
Light is Magic
8010 Graz
Austria

0 Cormac Jackson over 16 years ago

Hi,
did the full show on the Hog II ever use or have an expansion wing attached,have seen this when you have HTP channels on a wing which is then not used with Hog II PC.
just a thought,
Any chance that you have virtual masters running?

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0 lightismagic over 16 years ago

You are right, I used an expansion wing with the Hog2. In fact, the channels outputting (I can see them in the output window) are looking like a mix of different HTP faders. But shouldn't PIG+RELEASE release everything? Like I said I released every list in the list window manually also, with no effect. Also in Hog2 PC I tried to release or remove the wing, also with no result.

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Tommi Bernhardt
Light is Magic
8010 Graz
Austria
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0 lightismagic over 16 years ago

Ok, I found the source of the outputting channels. Cormacjack is right, the channels are on on the expansion wing. I found this information under "Levels > Source". There is "wing.." shown at the outputting channels.
The question is now: How to get rid of them? The Hog2 is only available again next week, so a little bit of preprogramming on the Hog2 PC would be very helpfull...

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Tommi Bernhardt
Light is Magic
8010 Graz
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0 marty postma - Former HES Forum Member over 16 years ago

Try moving those lists to a Master with the fader down and then deleting them from the Master.
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0 lightismagic over 16 years ago

Hi,
sounds like a good idea, unfortunately it doesn' work. The fader where I moved the list to, doesn't take total control over the channels. Example: There is a list with 3 channels at 70%. Moving this list to a new fader and bringing the fader up to full results in 100% output. Bringing the fader down to 0%, the channels stop fading at 70%. It's no matter if the cuelist is HTP or LTP (tried this in the options).
So I did it it the hard way and deleted all of the questionable lists. It's not such a problem, most of them were 1 cue HTP faders for some channels.
So far it looks like this works...

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Tommi Bernhardt
Light is Magic
8010 Graz
Austria
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0 Cormac Jackson over 16 years ago

Hi,
What May work is to load the show into Hog II PC,
right click on the config section where you would select wings and rock wings and see if the show is still seeing the wing like 1146 or something if it is select none and then save the show,this is a maybe that i have seen work before.
One habit i try and get into is to bring all your faders to 0% at the end of a show and do a pig release,

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0 marty postma - Former HES Forum Member over 16 years ago

[quote=lightismagic]most of them were 1 cue HTP faders for some channels.

Rather than deleting them enitrely, try simply turning off HTP in cuelist options for those lists...you also may have to press GO and then release the list to make sure that it totally stomps the instance assigned to the wing.

Glad you can at least work with it now:)
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0 lightismagic over 16 years ago

Hi,
I tried to set the lists to LTP prior of deleting them, but that also didn't work.
Anyway, in the end I'm able to do most of the time consuming preprograming now, and will store the now deleted lists next week on the real desk. They had to be assigned to the expansion wing, so I would have to move them anyway.
Shure it's a good thing to store after a PIG+RELEASE, but I guess I have transfered a lot of shows between a Hog2 and Hog2 PC and never had this kind of problem...

thanks to all of you guys!

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Tommi Bernhardt
Light is Magic
8010 Graz
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