Blade flip

Maybe better explanation for this is Blade motor value cycling.
Value from 1A -> 1B -> 2A -> 2B etc.

if my memory serves me right. i think the only problem with this is that this technology is beeing built differently from manufactor to manufactor.. as an example:
-on a mac 2000: blade parameter 1 is "how long into the beam the blade is, and parameter two controls the angle..

-On a VL1000: blade parameter 1 controls how long into the beam the left side of the blade is, parameter 2 controls the right side af the blade..

so i think it's hard to make a routine for this..

-but a good idea, so if it's doable, go ahead;)

Anders, you are right.

The idea was was for VL type blades...blades with two motors.

but maybe it's not impossible with Mac's. In that case it would cycle the length and angle.
Blade 1 length->blade 2 length, blade 1 angle -> blade 2 angle etc.

...I just have the visions, the rest is for engineers :) and I'm just trying to get a bit more out of the abstraction layer idea of Hog3.

I like your idea. Sounds sort of like a Mirror feature as opposed to a flip. I think about this with Pan and Tilt all the time. In fact, with moving head P&T if you hit flip, then hold minus and touch the tilt, you'd have it.

If there were a way to perform this with a single key stroke it would be fantastic.

The parameter would also be cool for indexing rotating Gobos. Personally I'd like to see Gobo and Shutters able to index to 90 degree offsets with a single button press.

For shutters specifically, it almost sounds like another need for string macros that would automate certain tasks.

I would really like to see the "abstraction" of the shutters go away,
Have the desk let me decide how the encoders work,
I would personally prefer if on wheel moved the whole blade in, and the other turned it,
but on VL's as you mentioned you have to turn 2 wheels to get the shutters to move in evenly,
I would like there to be some sort of option to set the control to either way you prefer.

Joshua Wood

I completely agree with Joshua

I agree also. The whole shutter thing needs some tweaking to make it more ease to use...

if we're gonna do something about this in the future, i want something like this, on the touchscreens:

Nice. That could be very nice with Lemur multi touchscreen :) ,
but I think it needs a bit tweaking. I might be wrong, but I have a feeling there's fixtures on the market, which have blades/shutters going over 50% of the beam.

But this discussion brought also another idea to my mind. A cycle button.
It would be nice to be able to cycle parameters through fixtures with single button. Also a possibility to have a cycle FX would be also pretty cool.

Like if you have 4 fixtures in color red, blue, green, cyan. After pressing cycle button you have cyan, red, blue, green.

Any comments, before this gets buried?
I personally think this could be very nice feature, you could cycle parameters within fixture and between fixtures and this would work also based on selection order. Also when using even and odd you could exchange the values of odd and even fixtures.