iPC as Backup for Hog 3

z6p6tist6z6p6tist6 Registered User
I'm about to load into a show with a Hog 3 and (1) DP2000 as my main desk, with an iPC as my backup console.

If I network the consoles, setting up the iPC as a client and H3 as server, will I be able to backup the show file directly to the iPC hard drive during programming?

Or, is it necessary to burn my final show file to CD and dump it to the iPC?



  • cmuenchowcmuenchow Registered User, Administrator, HES Staff
    edited April 2007
    Hey Phil,

    Good question buddy. Unfortunately client consoles are not able to locally store the show server's file to its own hard disk. As you said you will have to burn the show to disc and then reload it on your iPC.

    -Chris Muenchow
  • z6p6tist6z6p6tist6 Registered User
    edited April 2007

    And I thought you were going to have good news for me Chris.

    Ah well.
  • teericksonteerickson Registered User, HES Alumni
    edited April 2007

    We have a couple of feature requests already logged that should address what you want. Enhancement #5846 specifies backup functionality for client consoles and enhancement #9221 discusses support for backing up to network drives.

  • Marty PostmaMarty Postma Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Also when using iPC as a "backup" console. Make sure your DP-2000 is set to Net #3 or higher. Otherwise your iPC will not "see" it as it conflicts with the internal DMX ports and the ones reserved for Super-widget.
  • garygary Registered User
    edited May 2007
    please corret me if im rong but if the ipc is running as a 'client' then it uses the dmx output of the h3, so if the h3 drops out then both consoles will stop working due to lack of server. i know that this is not what Phil is doing but im just checking.
  • cmuenchowcmuenchow Registered User, Administrator, HES Staff
    edited May 2007
    You are correct Gary. When an iPC is running as a show client to a Wholehog 3 Console it is basically acting like a remote control to the server process running on the Console. Therefore, if the playback, server, or launcher processes die on the Wholehog 3 Console then the iPC will no longer be able to control output from the DPs.
  • cormacjackcormacjack Registered User, DL Beta
    edited May 2007
    Please correct me if i'm wrong on this,
    would it be possible to come out of the IPC via a midi cable to Hog III PC on a laptop with superwidget (via a USb-midi cable) and run your backup console that way instead of being networked so to to speak?
    If you really wanted i suppose a DMX merge would let you have almost instant control if something did happen to your IPC or if network problems happened...
    Also desktop crash's etc might not affect the HogIII PC

    just wondering if there a few way alternative ways of running a backup plan...
    Sorry to jump all over this thread

    Regards Cormac
  • cmuenchowcmuenchow Registered User, Administrator, HES Staff
    edited May 2007
    Yes! You can send out Midi Show control from the iPC to Hog3PC. This will allow Hog3PC to track thru the show side by side with the iPC. You will have to load the same show on both the iPC and Hog3PC and configure the software to use the appropriate midi devices in the Wholehog control panel and make sure the iPC is setup to send MSC and the Hog3PC is setup to receive MSC.

    This will give you a great backup solution as it makes each system independent... if one crashes it does not effect the other. I know several users that are utilizing this type of setup to run a backup. If something happens to the main desk they will simply switch the dmx lines and continue on the second desk. In fact this seems to be one of the most popular backup solutions. Just be aware that any new programming that you do on the main console such as recording cues will not be recorded on the backup console. This backup solution is meant solely for playback.

    -Chris Muenchow
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