live changes

W8TAHW8TAH Registered User
Hi folks:

Just wondering -- if i am progressing through my cue list, and decide to change something live (lets say -- add a bit more intensity to the choir) how do i gradually relaease that change so it transitions smoothly to the next cue? -- hitting clear makes a jump

TIM

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  • teericksonteerickson Registered User, HES Alumni
    edited April 2007
    Tim,

    In the Wholehog 2 Control Panel (Setup -> Control Panel), the first option in the left column of buttons is "Live Programmer". When live programmer is enabled, all edits made using palettes and clearing the programmer will happen using the time in the palettes, the time in the programmer, or the default times set in the control panel.

    In some cases, I'll want to be able to quickly turn this option on and off during a live show, so I'll record a keystroke macro to do this for me that I can then fire directly from the command line using the syntax "Macro 1 Enter".

    I hope this helps.
  • cormacjackcormacjack Registered User, DL Beta
    edited April 2007
    Hi,
    if i'm running a show on a Hog or any console and i'm not 100% sure what every cue is going to be or it's an event/band/show that i haven't got as much done as i would like i sometimes find it easier to record the intensity of fixtures on a seperate htp fader so if at any point i need to adjust the intensity i can just fade in and out as desired,
    i see in other threads you have started tom has mentioned busking which may be a good place to start.
    hope this is of some help

    C
  • W8TAHW8TAH Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Ok, both of those make a lot of sense - i'll probably turn on the live programmer function when i get to church tomorrow morning and see how it works during practice

    tim
  • ChrisTallChrisTall Registered User, DL Beta
    edited April 2007
    Tim, another option is to grab the choir channel/s in the programmer, bring it up to the desired level, then merge it into the current cue, and clear the programmer.
  • W8TAHW8TAH Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Ok -- im here at church, and i tried the live programmer optioin - -thats going to stay on, and i am likely going to merge things into the cues at times as well-- that problem i solved!

    thank you very much

    TIM
  • ChrisTallChrisTall Registered User, DL Beta
    edited April 2007
    Saving it to the cuelist is good especially if its the first of multiple services.

    btw, I just sent you an email.
  • W8TAHW8TAH Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Ya - i did a lot of that - -it worked really nice -- i was on different cue lists because of some differences in our services today, but normally that will work beautifully

    Thanks

    TIM
  • teericksonteerickson Registered User, HES Alumni
    edited April 2007
    Tim,

    I'm glad to hear that things worked well for you.

    Do you know yet what knid of moving lights you'll be working with?
    There are some additional tips and tricks that can help you out in this area when working with moving lights, but they depend a bit on which lights you're going to have.
  • W8TAHW8TAH Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Hi Tom:

    The Rig is still very much up in the air in terms of its final design - - after several frustrations with a couple of companies -- we are pretty much deciding to design it ourselves -- in general terms (and without attaching any committment to buy) we are looking at the following.

    Around the upstage side of our stage (roughly 20 x 50) in a spread wing U configuration, 4 electrics with par64s for back wash and some kind of moving fixtures the original suggestion from one of the companies was to go with the Chauvet Intimidators -- i DONT like them -- my preference would be some form of 250 watt moving fixtures these will be for back lighting and effects. If we cant get the moving heads in the budget, im kinda beginning to look at the rosco iCue moving mirrors mounted on ETC source 4s. The main bar out front will have 4 moving head fixtures for specials and effects -- right now we are looking very hard at either the Studio Spot 575 CMY or the MAC 700. To be honest -- it will probably be the studio spots. Also on the main bar will be 9 - 10 fixed ETC source 4 750watt units and in 2 high boxes (one on each side of the stage will be 3 or 4 Source 4s also. Up stage of the US lighting bar, we will have a cyc, and we will be lighting that with (depending on cost) 10 - 20 Color Kinetics Color Blast TRs. In addition, the house lighting 10 chandaliers (soon to be converted to recessed cans) are controled by the board as will be 4 "windows" which will be glass panels in wood cases that have a frosted clear vinyl to appear as etched glass. these will have LED strips (color kinetics probably) that will be controlled via DMX as well from the hog. THe final piece will be some form of Hazer - im looking at the Unique2 Hazer.

    TIM
  • teericksonteerickson Registered User, HES Alumni
    edited April 2007
    Well, both HES and Martin typically have a method of controlling the fade time of slotted colour and gobo wheels within the fixtures. This is accomplished by sending the light timing information on a MSpeed channel (or possibly multiple channels) and the fixtures handle the fade. This complicates the live programmer idea a bit, but there are ways that you can build palettes that allow you to take advantage of this for better live control.

    Let us know what you end up getting and we can give you some ideas to try.
  • W8TAHW8TAH Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Tom-- seeing this problem, im shifting my methodology a bit -- if i need to change something, i'll do it then update the cue and then clear the programmer (in that order) that way it will fade correctly -- so hopefully the timing will not be an issue

    TIM
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