A new idea

I have an idea...
I think maybe the playback faders can be a program tool.
We can insert any fixture or number of fixtures of the same type into a different fader and any time we press the Choose button, a pop up list will show up and we can select which parameter group we want the fader control on (All,Int,Position,Color,Beam). and the GO and HALT key's will scroll up and down between parameters that in the selected group (Pan,Tilt,Color1,Color2,Magenta,cyan,Gobo,Zoom,Focus, etc...).
the console akt like a simple fader console for MH.

for example: insert 10 Studio Spot to fader no.4, press on Choose, select color to bring into the fader, press GO and the fader control on color wheel 1, press GO again and the fader control on color wheel 2, press HALT and the fader control on the previous parameter (color wheel 1), and the same for Beam,Position,Int...
we can insert a 10 groups like that, each for every fader.
This will halp not only for programing, this will halp in Live show to.
I think this is a good idea, what you guys think about that?
This toll will be the perfect answer for all the LD/oprtor that use to work with a fader console and this will crash the ETC Congo with hes function to move parameter to fader, the congo move one parameter to a fader but we move the all Studio Spot !!!:finger:

Thanks
Amir
Danix.co.il
Israel

0 marty postma - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

Hey Amir,

This could be cool, would you want the values sent to the programmer so they hold as you change paramter types?

Otherwise once we get IPCB control on cuelists, you will be able to exactly this and configure what order the parameters are by the order in which and how you record your cues.
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0 amir877 - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

Amm...right, i forget about the IPCB thing........that Marty...

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0 rautasami over 17 years ago

A bit similar feature is discussed at forums.highend.com/showthread.php?t=2086
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0 amir877 - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

Yes i understand you now Sami, i think this will be very useful tool and if we add your idea to my, it will be more useful so the Flash will be the one that say to the values to go in to the programmer or not.
I don't thing other console have a fonction like that, they can add only one parameter to a fader.

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0 stephlight - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

What could be good is choose + palette, it could put palette values for fixtures are already in submaster or fixtures in programmer.
If there is no fixture in submaster and programmer it put values for all fixtures concerned with the pallet.
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0 marty postma - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

Hi Steph,

So in effect you're saying that by holding down Choose it would take all the active fixtures in the current cue and select them in the programmer, is that right?

How will the console differentiate this from rate adjustment (which is what it does now when holding down Choose)?

I'm not saying that a function like this isn't useful, but it could get confusing this way.;)
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0 stephlight - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

no what i say is holding down Choose AND touch palette put palette values for fixtures that are already in submaster or fixtures that are already in programmer.
In my idea it's not a cue but more like when you put a group in a submaster.
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0 amir877 - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

Staph, if i understand you, i think you allready have that function
You can press LIVE and Red Palette and all the fixtures that corently in Red palette in the cue will go into the programmer.
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0 stephlight - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

I don't want to put nothing in programmer, i want to put it in submaster,
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0 rautasami over 17 years ago

Took a while for me to understand...

Steph, do you mean pressing choose would select the group in groupmaster when pressing choose+pallette and puts pallette values for that group in programmer?
Btw, it wouldn't be bad to have choose,go or halt for selecting the group in groupmaster (though, it's a GMA feature)
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0 stephlight - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

No wath i said is that pressing choose+pallette puts pallette values in groupmaster.
a) Groupmaster is empty, progammer is empty so all pallette values for all fixtures concerned with this pallet go in group master
b) there already fixtures in groupmaster so all pallette values for this fixtures go in groupmaster
c) fixtures were put before pressing choose+pallette in programmer so values for this fixtures go in groupmaster

Perhaps we could have halt+ palette to put in programmer all fixtures active in this master at the palette values
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0 rautasami over 17 years ago

Sorry, I guess I got a bit confused...cause I thought you were talking about "groupmasters" like I have understood them in Hog3 -> Group # Move Choose
which are, I think, supposed to work only as intensity masters for groups (inhibitive master)

So, I assume your idea records a cue? or scene?
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0 amir877 - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

Thanks Sami, that what i meant in the beginig of the thread !
Right now the Group # Move Choose will only send an intensity submaster, and my idea was to use that function or similar to move the all fixture to a master that control on the all fixture parameters and send them to the programmer every time the Flash button pressed (your idea by the way Hah)

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0 rautasami over 17 years ago

About Stephs idea... what would happen with global palettes?
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0 stephlight - Former HES Forum Member over 17 years ago

With global palette you must already have fixtures in programmer or in groupmaster before doing Choose + Palette
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