Copy troubles

stephlightstephlight Registered User
Hi,
I will perform a training as trainer in the beginning of November so I revise my classics and more specifically the functions which I do not use every day. I found a trouble when I try to copy parameters from a fixture to an other with mask in a specific destination. I tried 3 commands:
Fixture 1 Thru 4 Copy 8 Thru 11, Enter
1 ) 1 Thru 4 Intensity Copy List 3 Cue 1 Fixture 8 Thru 11, Enter (the one that is in the manual page 157)
2 ) 1 Intensity Copy List 3 Cue 1 Fixture 8 Enter
3 ) List 1 Cue 2 fixture 1 Position Copy List 3 Cue 1 Fixture 5 Enter

Every times it's the fixture from source that is stored in the cue instead of the one of destination.
1 ) In Cue 1 of List 3 I have the fixtures 1 Thru 4 instead of 8 Thru 11
2 ) In Cue 1 of List 3 I have the fixture 1 of fixture 8
3 ) In Cue 2 of List 1 I have the fixture 1 instead of Fixture 5

Am I doing something wrong or is there a trouble in the software?

Thanks
Stephane

Comments

  • stephlightstephlight Registered User
    edited October 2015
    I also have trouble with :
    Group 4 Beam 2 Copy Beam 3 Enter
    It is copying all values of all fixtures that are in Beam 2 in Beam 3 instead of only copying the values of the fixtures of the group 4.

    PS : I'm Using V3.2.1
  • MLorenzMLorenz Registered User, Hog Beta
    Beam 2 Group 4 Copy Beam 3 Enter

    Source-Mask-Command-Action-Destination
  • stephlightstephlight Registered User
    edited October 2015
    I just refer to a line of the page 173 of the manual : "Group 5 Colour 2 Copy Colour 3 Enter : copies fixtures that are in Colour Palette 2 and Group 5 into Colour Palette 3."
    I have tested tested your solution with Position 2 that have Pan & Tilt values for fixtures 1 thru 8 and the Group 4 (Fixtures 1 thru 4) .
    By command Line :
    Position 2 Group 4 copy Position 5 Enter working until Group. As soon as I enter the 4, Group 4 take place of Position 2 Group. So at the end it looks Like I copy the Group 4 in the Position 5 (Groupe 4 Copy Position 5) and I have an empty palette.
    By touchscreens with Guard actived:
    Position 2 Group 4 than Command Line become red
  • MLorenzMLorenz Registered User, Hog Beta
    Hmmm.... Ok...
    Strange, because in general the above mentioned syntax should be correct.
    Seems like that 2 palettes can´be used as source and mask....

    e.g.:

    Cue 1 Group3 Position Copy Cue 5 works like it should
  • stephlightstephlight Registered User
    Yes but Cue 1 Group 3 Position Copy Cue 5 Group 4 is not working like it should, it is doing the same result than Cue 1 Group 3 Position Copy Cue 5.
  • MLorenzMLorenz Registered User, Hog Beta
    Thats correct, because Cue 5 is already the destination and the destination doesnt have any mask/option.
    Would be nice if it would work like that....
    We only have Source-Mask-Command-Action-Destination at the moment.
  • stephlightstephlight Registered User
    edited October 2015
    But on page 157 of the manual it says :
    "You can add parameter, location and destination masks to any copy command:
    • 1 Thru 4 Intensity Copy List 3 Cue 1 Fixture 8 Thru 11, Enter : copies the
    intensities of fixtures 1 to 4 in the current selection to fixtures 8 to 11
    in cue 1 of cuelist 3."
    What corespond to my command Line. The manual must be ahead of some versions ;-)
  • MLorenzMLorenz Registered User, Hog Beta
    I´m in contact with development about this, seems that there are some odds in the syntax.
    They will check
  • stephlightstephlight Registered User
    Great thanks!!
  • cmuenchowcmuenchow Registered User, Administrator, HES Staff
    I'll start with Steph's first post because I think I've got that understood now and I have logged as a solid issue that I can show to development.

    In these cases the failure is occurring because the syntax involves taking data from fixture 1 in location A and giving it to fixture 2 in location B. The source and destination are understood by the console in broad terms as location A and location B but the more detailed part of the destination which is the fixture destination is lost. Here is a re-post and summary as I have written it into our bug logging system:


    [1] [Thru] [4] [Intensity] [Copy] [List] [3] [Cue] [1] [Fixture] [8] [Thru] [11] [Enter]

    This syntax results in List 3 cue 1 getting data for fixtures 1 Thru 4 instead of 8 Thru 11



    [1] [Intensity] [Copy] [List] [3] [Cue] [1] [Fixture] [8] [Enter]

    This syntax results in List 3 cue 1 getting data for fixture 1 and instead of fixture 8



    [List] [1] [Cue] [2] [Fixture] [1] [Position] [Copy] [List] [3] [Cue] [1] [Fixture] [5] [Enter]

    This syntax results in List 1 cue 2 getting fixture 1 instead of Fixture 5


    So to summarize, when a source and/or destination contain two pieces of data (such as fixtures in a palette or groups in a cue) we tend to mess up the secondary details of the destination (the fixtures and/or the groups). Now, its not clear whether the console logic demands the larger part of the source and/or destination to come first in the syntax but I think its actually interchangeable.... just broken. More to come!
  • stephlightstephlight Registered User
    Good news !! Thanks
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