Copy efx

How do you copy efx? I have effx recorded to 8 fixtures, but on this show I have 12. I would like to copy the same efx from fixtures 1 to 8 to 9-12. I open the cue and try to copy but it doesn't work. I didn't think to replicate the fixture and I have since programmed a bunch with 12 fixtures that I don't want to lose. I even tried recording an efx palette and then applied the palette to all my fixtures but it only worked on the initial 8. It is efx only with no under lying fixture info. Can you also copy effects from one fixture type to another assuming they share the same parameters?
Also why when I open some cues the efx are in red and in some cues the efx are black. I can copy the red efx cues but not the black
Also why when I open some cues the efx are in red and in some cues the efx are black. I can copy the red efx cues but not the black
Comments
Effects aren't selected by default.
What happens when you open the efx from the efx pallettes.
So I usually record my efx into the efx pallettes and then record those efx as a cue
I find it easier to edit and keep track of efx by using the pallettes rather than searching through cues.
To clone f/x I would do something like
efx "X" open
101>108 copy fixture 109>112
enter Update
Hope this helps.