Guides/Templates for Segemented Collage

Marty PostmaMarty Postma Registered User
edited April 2011 in DL.3/DL.2
There seems to be very little information on preparing content for use with the Segmented Collage effect, so I have created a bunch of "blank" guide files for Adobe Photoshop as well as a quick "How to".

You can download from my website here:
http://www.retinalresonance.com/DL_Seg_Cllg_PSDs.html

Please be sure to read the PDF document before using any of the guide files.

I am providing these files as Public Domain material.

Thanks to Matt S. @ HES for providing the pixel overlap info to me. :beerchug:

If HES/Barco wishes to make these available via their DL support pages I have no problem with this.

Hope people find these usefull. :)

Comments

  • Marty PostmaMarty Postma Registered User
    edited March 2011
    The PDF instructions have been updated to include some new information and clarify a few points.

    Thanks to Abbe for bringing it to my attention!:friday:
  • Joe BleasdaleJoe Bleasdale Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Just a quicky Marty... What's the largest DL3 collage you have tried in the field? I know the largest possible is 64x64, but what have you tried?

    Thanks,
  • schiefelsschiefels Registered User, HES Alumni
    edited April 2011
    Hi Joe,

    The largest possible collage is actually a 16x8 (16 wide, 8 tall).
  • Marty PostmaMarty Postma Registered User
    edited April 2011
    What's the largest DL3 collage you have tried in the field?

    I've tested all combinations of up to 8 units total myself.
  • Joe BleasdaleJoe Bleasdale Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Ahh ok Mat. 64 total it is!

    What's the limit in the DML-1200? And Thanks Marty...

    Thanks.
  • Marty PostmaMarty Postma Registered User
    edited April 2011
    What's the limit in the DML-1200?

    Same rules apply for DML since they use AXON for collage.
  • Abbe RPM Digital LightingAbbe RPM Digital Lighting Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Hi Joe,

    Just to clarify. As Marty states for doing a CollageTM the DML-1200 will have to use a Axon server. Witch is how we sell them theses days.

    I tried this in Sweden where 6 units is installed in Icehockey 10 Arenas, looks nice.

    But the majority sold so far was without servers or with EMP (The Barco Version of the Green Hippo Express. Witch can also runt in the GH Express mode if you like)
    In those you can do a 9 x 9 with the media server by cutting in the same way described here.
    With units Without mediaserver you can feed a "in theory" unlimited amount of units over a grid of 1400 x 1050. In practice it is VERY time consuming and i would not recommend anyone to try more than 2 x 2 at first, to learn the process.
    You still have to cut the content to overlap as the internal software was never made to take care of that.
    This is exactly the same process you have to do with normal projectors.
    I have done a 2 x 3 in full res feed by 6 computers still image, that took some time to do, but was beautiful!
    3900 x 1000 Native pixels :D
    The benefit is the blend & gamma curve witch in the DML-1200 is 16bit, as opposed to the MediaServers 8bit. (DVI 8bit)

    I hope this was clarifying :)
  • Sandals512Sandals512 Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Just a quicky Marty... What's the largest DL3 collage you have tried in the field? I know the largest possible is 64x64, but what have you tried?

    Thanks,

    I know you didn't ask me,
    but I have successfully done 9 wide x 2 high, and 5 wide x 3 high, after awhile the alignment grid feels burned into your retina's
  • Joe BleasdaleJoe Bleasdale Registered User
    edited April 2011
    I tried this in Sweden where 6 units is installed in Icehockey 10 Arenas, looks nice.


    Funny you should mention Ice... I am a keen skater & Ice Hockey enthusiast, I was thinking of suggesting projection onto the ice for an ice show (dancing). However the rink is olympic sized (60m x 20m) so it would be alot of DL's or DMLs!! What do you guys think?
    Sandals512 wrote: »
    I know you didn't ask me,
    but I have successfully done 9 wide x 2 high, and 5 wide x 3 high, after awhile the alignment grid feels burned into your retina's

    No problem :) and yeah, I have done alignments on Hippo before, I know the feeling! :Eyecrazy:

    Thanks.
  • Abbe RPM Digital LightingAbbe RPM Digital Lighting Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Hi Joe,

    The Ice is 30 x 60m in Sweden and we use 6 DML to do Red Line To Red Line.
    They need to be minimum 16m up in the air and crosshooting.
    It needs to be very dark to make an impression, but it looks nice.

    How is the lighting for a ice show (dancing)?
    For a Hockey Game it is so bright, so this iceprojection can only be used in the beginning.

    I found that you could do a 30 x 20m with 4 DML hanging over each of the 4 circles and rather high brightness in the arena.
    If you would put white pigment in the ice, the effect is even better.
  • Joe BleasdaleJoe Bleasdale Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Hi Joe,

    The Ice is 30 x 60m in Sweden and we use 6 DML to do Red Line To Red Line.
    They need to be minimum 16m up in the air and crosshooting.
    It needs to be very dark to make an impression, but it looks nice.

    How is the lighting for a ice show (dancing)?
    For a Hockey Game it is so bright, so this iceprojection can only be used in the beginning.

    I found that you could do a 30 x 20m with 4 DML hanging over each of the 4 circles and rather high brightness in the arena.
    If you would put white pigment in the ice, the effect is even better.

    Hi Abbe,

    Its either 60x30 or 60x20. Not many Olympic ones in the UK!!

    Sorry, I play Ice Hockey... but the Ice Dancing group do a show every year (separate to Hockey) and I was asked to give some ideas. I want to project using DMLs - can Barco spare some as a loan? ;-) The Ice Show has black drapes around the ice, and all the lights off. We put in Alpha Beams, Macs, whatever MLs we can and basically light it like a normal show! Face lighting is a pain, a few VL1ks usually do the trick with some followspots too.

    The only downside is because it is a hockey rink, the ice has all the hockey markings underneath - so projection would be a tad nicer if we could melt the ice, paint it all white, then re-melt and send the Zamboni on.... But apparently this isn't allowed! ;-)

    Thanks!
  • Abbe RPM Digital LightingAbbe RPM Digital Lighting Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Hi Joe,

    I would love to lend you "some DML´s" as you put it, but at the price of a BMW each
    we too have to keep a limited number for demo. We also never supply demo
    equipment to any real project. This is cause we then anger our customers who
    buy them to rent to organisations like yours.

    On the other hand Barco are generally very generous with support.
    So if you do get the budget for 4 DMLs and ask really nice,
    i think that you can get on-site support.

    As allways you can contact me for detailed support in any DML-1200 endeavor :cool:
  • Joe BleasdaleJoe Bleasdale Registered User
    edited April 2011
    Hi Abbe,

    I didn't think Barco would part with any ;) and its good policy keeping the demo kit off projects, the customer has the power!

    So you reckon 4 DMLs would cover an ice rink!? Can you mail me a list of DML suppliers in Northern Europe please? Also a ballpark idea of how many they have and list prices on them?

    Thanks for your support :D
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