Referred cues

[QUOTE=stephlight]Could it be possible to have Referred cues?

in one cuelist for a song we have many cues but often many cues are copy of others (Chorus verse....). If when we do a copy of cue we could specify that we want an Referred cue, next time we have to modify reference cue it woud modify all the Referred cues



Thanks

You can otherwise put all your parameters data, effect stuff,timing, etc from that cue into a pallette. Normalwise I don't use a lot if Intensity pallettes so I put my IPCBET stuff in there.


Rik

thanks
i know that, i just tried to find an other way

...a nice way would be if we could have scenes in cuelists. So instead of a cue with its own contents, it would be just a link to a scene. I think this has been discussed before...?
You'd set up your scenes (intro, verse, chorus, "flash", whatever) and have your cuelists that put the song together. This way checking cues at new venues would be pretty easy. You could achive the same by using IPCBET-Palettes, but I think using a "scene" for a scene (=look on the stage) sounds more logical...

Jan

You can do that with macro.

of course you could do it with a macro or with IPCBET-Palletes like Rik suggested.

But it's not the fast and easy way how it should be.
it should be easy like typing "scene 4 choose+record enter" or something like that to make a new cue that is a link to a scene.
Or a drag-and-drop function to pull scenes from the scene window into an open cuelist window.

Jan

You can do Scene Copy to Programmer and record as a cue

Amir,

The syntax you suggested will allow you to record a scene as a cue, but it will not reference that scene. It sounds like people are looking for a way to use cues and scenes as palettes, which there isn't a way to do. Fortunately, you can record palettes that contain all IPCBET parameters for this purpose.

Tom, what i'm looking for is a sort of virtual copy of a cue, not exatly like palette and scenes, for exemple you have two identical cues the cue 3 and cue 8, cue 8 is a copy of cue 3 what would be fantastic is that if i chage a value in cue 3 that modifies the cue 8 automatically.

I want to use the scene as a usual pallet to achieve this.

I requested this before.
However, because how it became it afterwards is not understood, it writes here.

Thanks,
Akito

I also think, it could be good idea to have cues which are referring to a scene. Also, when you copy that cue you can choose do you still want it to be linked to a scene or break the link.

Pallette can be a part of scene and cue and scene can be used as a cue...

So, when you update a pallette it updates scenes and cues which have that pallette and when you modify scene it updates cues referring to that scene...

The question is will this make things too complicated?

what i ask is cues referring to one cue, if we change this cue it will changes all cue referringto to this one.

But we also could have cues refering to scene but i think it is an other option, as i think we should he all sames options for scene than for cuelist

[QUOTE=stephlight]what i ask is cues referring to one cue, if we change this cue it will changes all cue referringto to this one.

But we also could have cues refering to scene but i think it is an other option, as i think we should he all sames options for scene than for cuelist


But the option without getting into 'referred cues' is already there. The work around is just to use the pallettes. Now you can make an IPCBET 'reference' pallette of all the other pallettes you got on your show. So changing stuff in your IPCBET 'reference' pallette will change the information in your cue(s).

By first hitting @ and then the IPCBET 'reference' pallette you adress that pallette as a 'direct' pallette.


Rik

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as i told you, i know that i can do it like that what i try to find is a way more in my way to see a cuelist.

How would everyone like to see this implemented?

I'm guessing that you could create a reference cue using:

Cue 1 Copy More Allow Refs 2 Enter

Once you have created the reference cue, if you try to update or merge into it, the console should prompt you to ask if you want to update the original cue or de-reference the cue you are updating.

How does that sound?

very good, i think i should not find better, perhaps we could have in cuelist an "Auto reference" option: each Copy will be then one reference.